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It's not often that I say this, so let me get it out of my system: I think Paul Nyman is right. In his latest article on The Hardball Times, he talks about the bow-arch-bow system that is crucial to developing velocity, discusses the role of tempo, glove side action, and many other things. Of course, he uses a terrible quote to try and prove that Chaos Theory is applicable to baseball:

Voros McCracken: "I would say that you know almost as much about what a guy's going to do in the big leagues from his Triple-A stats as you do from his major league stats."

Gary Huckaby [sic]: "I'll go further and say exactly as much."

Eddie Bane: "That doesn't surprise me, but I don't believe it. I won 15 games in Triple-A two years in a row. I won seven games total in the major leagues. The level of play is completely different. I led the league (Triple-A) in ERA both years. I wasn't good enough to pitch in the major leagues."
In addition to misspelling Huckabay's name wrong in the quoted section, he also misspells Voros McCracken's name earlier in the article as "Varos."

At any rate, the above rejoinder by Eddie Bane seems like a blow to sabermetricians everywhere, but in reality, he's using dumb scout logic to prove a point. First of all, win-loss records are meaningless, especially in the minor leagues. If you look at Eddie's major league stats, he walked more batters than he struck out.

Secondly, Huckabay and McCracken could have taken a look at his minor league stats and ascertained that he wouldn't do well in the major leagues despite his low ERA. He simply does not have the stuff to get it done in the MLB. Eddie thinks that Huckabay/McCracken are saying that if you succeed in the minors you will succeed in the majors. He is wrong. It's how you succeed in the minors that will dictate whether or not you will succeed in the majors.

Paul Nyman shows his ignorance of how to properly evaluate a player's abilities via performance analysis by using this quote. However, the rest of his article is very interesting and I largely agree with most of it, with the glaring exception of the Inverted W being an acceptable arm action. Yes, putting your arm in a position of unnatural hyperabduction and causing your forearm to lay back in external rotation especially hard can result in high velocities, but there exists a great body of evidence that shows these mechanics are injurious. He then goes to show John Smoltz's arm action, who, as you may know, just landed on the DL with inflamed biceps muscles and an inflamed rotator cuff.

The second article is about Ben Sheets. David Gassko does a great job (as usual) breaking down the performance analysis side of Sheets, but Dan Loeterman breaks down his mechanics with a few things that are wrong. First, he shows this picture of Sheets compared to Beckett and says Beckett is in a better position to throw the ball since he is more "closed off."


Dan says that Sheets will rely more on his arm strength to throw the ball because his front shoulder is opened up prematurely. He's wrong. Look at Beckett at footstrike - his arm has barely passed through the horizontal plane! This will increase the violence of his arm laying back in external rotation, which increases the strain on his rotator cuff and UCL. Furthermore, what you really need to look at is the back shoulder - both Sheets and Beckett have them in the same place! This means that Sheets is also "closed off."

Now, I do not think Sheets has ideal mechanics. Dan says this about Sheets:

Despite the high leg kick, Sheets’ lower body is not especially active (discussed below), though he compensates by bringing the ball in a wide circle—the wider the circle going into release point, the more power—and slingshotting it toward home plate. He pushes off well with his back leg and has a strong follow-through with that back leg, indicating a good transfer of power from the lower body to the arm. (emphasis mine)

The bolded part means that Sheets takes the ball laterally behind his body in reverse rotation, which causes extra stress on the pectoralis major and labrum. This is not a good thing. It's also not "slingshotting" the ball towards home plate. The loaded slingshot position is something that Dr. Marshall teaches his students, which avoids unnecessary violence in the external rotation phase.

However, there is a silver lining here - a pitching mechanics analyst by the name of Chris Neault said this about Ben Sheets:

Sheets places a lot of horizontal abduction on his shoulder when he brings the ball behind him at the beginning of his throwing sequence—prior to the cocking phase. He brings his pitching arm far behind his trunk, and basically points his elbow and forearm beyond second base (to the right side of the infield). This is the beginning of the "wide circle" that Dan was talking about. This motion places stress on the anterior shoulder structures such as the anterior joint capsule, coracohumeral ligament, pectoralis major, biceps, and labrum.

Alright! Someone who speaks medical jargon like myself! He's basically saying the same thing as me - that the wide circle is unnecessary and stresses his shoulder far too much.

However, Chris says this:

Why do these injuries continue to mount for Sheets? The culprit appears to be his high arm slot. Although it’s partly responsible for the large 12-6 curveball, it’s also responsible for taxing the rotator cuff to the max. As a rule of thumb, the higher the arm slot, the harder the rotator cuff and biceps must work to stabilize the head of the humerus. This places stress on the rotator cuff interval, which includes ligaments in the front of the shoulder that also add stability. (emphasis mine)

I disagree with Chris on this part. There is nothing inherently wrong with a high arm slot, especially when you use your trunk to lean and keep the elbow below the acromial line to achieve that high arm slot. It makes no logical sense that a high arm slot would be harder on the rotator cuff than a lower arm slot when you consider the arm in relation to the acromial line is exactly the same (assuming no position of hyperabduction, which Sheets does not have) in both cases. However, a low arm slot can produce extreme forearm flyout since it is impossible to take the ball in a straight line to the target. Forearm flyout occurs on almost every release of a pitch; it happens when the ball is taken in an arc to the target rather than a straight line. No pitchers take the ball in a perfectly straight line (or even inside vertical, as Dr. Marshall believes is possible) with the possible exception of Hideki Okajima:

Regardless, we can control forearm flyout by attempting to establish a straight driveline (ho ho, now you know the inspiration of my site's name) to the target. After all, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. From a physics standpoint, accelerating an object along an arc and releasing it on a tangent line to a point is inefficient compared to a straight line vector. We want to be as efficient as possible!

Wow, this article ended up being a lot longer than I imagined. To recap:


  • I agree (mostly) with Paul Nyman. This won't happen often.

  • Dan Loeterman doesn't know much about pitching mechanics at all.

  • David Gassko is still awesome.

  • Chris Neault wrote some very interesting things, and I look forward to reading more of his work (hopefully his rebuttal to my comments regarding high arm slot).

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Really good piece. Quite in-depth, too! When will update baseball delusions?

by jay on May 2, 2008 11:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You’ve already pointed out the cons of the inverted W arm action. But there are is one particular pro to point out. It’s the easiest to teach from scratch. One reason being that it promotes equal and opposite action of both arms, as Nyman mentioned in his article. Next time you try to throw with the opposite hand, try out the inverted W arm action.

I would say Smoltz is injured because he has 3000+ career innings which equates to about 42,000+ external rotations over the span of 20 seasons. How many human beings can endure so much stress on the structure of the shoulder? I don’t believe a certain arm action could have “prevented” his “injury” or significantly prolonged his career. That is because I have no evidence to prove it one way or the other. I do believe that he is a freak of nature.

I also believe an extreme amount (in degrees) and rate (angular acceleration) of external rotation can be an effect of one’s own “natural” flexibility/mobility/ROM in the connective tissue surrounding the shoulder and not necessarily achieved by the inverted W arm action. Therefore, I don’t believe one can blame injury solely and directly on the inverted W. I would blame injury on the amount and rate of external rotation.

As for horizontal abduction, what is Chris Neault’s definition? He says “brings his pitching arm behind his trunk”. Is it bringing the humerus behind the acromial line? This would be achieved with the rotator cuff and deltoid muscles. Or is retracting the scapula while keeping the humerus in line with the acromial line? Which one is he describing and which one is actually happening? Well, it doesn’t matter which one is really happening because we are not looking at Sheets with an X-ray machine to determine the exact position of his scapula in relation to his rib cage and the exact position of his humerus to his scapula.

I bet I can do it both ways, fully-clothed, and no one would be able to distinguish neither. And people wonder why Marshall pitchers have their shirts off.

Is it possible for Sheets to have abducted his humerus behind his acromial line while his scapula is in a “neutral”, rested, relaxed position for just a moment and THEN retract his scapula while “undoing” his abduction by relaxing his rotator cuff and deltoid to line up his humerus and acromial line?

I’ll pose another question. Is it possible for Sheets to have not even the slightest bit abduct his humerus, instead use his rhomboids to achieve full retraction of his scapula while keeping the humerus inline with the acromial line?

How do we know which one it is?

Chris Neault is not a pitching mechanics analyst. He is a physical therapist, which explains why he is fluent in medical jargon. He doesn’t understand the role of the rhomboids in regards to the pitching motion. A retracted scapula actually protects anterior structures of the shoulder.

Sheets problem is his poor glove arm action, poor lower body action, and his follow-through. It has nothing to do with his supposed “slingshot” arm action. Roy Oswalt has a similar arm action.

I also disgree with Chris on the higher arm slot being bad. What stresses the rotator cuff and biceps tendon is the external rotation that is achieved, not necessarily the particular “type” of mechanics exhibited (arm action, arm slot, etc.)

by xv84 on May 3, 2008 3:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

xv84,

I agree with you that you cannot solely attribute the inverted W to the recurring injuries to the pitching shoulder of John Smoltz. That being said, I do believe it is a big part of it. Of course there are other factors in play – posterior joint capsule restriction, hypermobility of the anterior joint capsule, deficiency of the rotator cuff itself, improper timing and force couples of the Scapular muscles, acromion process shape, muscle length/flexibility, etc. etc. The list can go on and on.

The sheer volume of pitches obviously has an effect on every pitcher: the more you throw, the more the structures will wear down with time. This is a given in any situation.

Horizontal abduction is motion occurring at the glenohumeral joint – not the scapula. Even with the Scapula fully retracted, the humerus can still horizontally abduct further. Retract your shoulder blades together fully. Now attempt to bring your shoulder further behind your body – you can do it. Or think about it like you are doing a flat bench press – if you bring the bar all the way to your chest, your elbow and humerus drop towards the ground – into horizontal abduction (this is bad, improper form by the way and stresses the anterior shoulder excessively).

You are correct, I am not a pitching analyst/expert, nor do I proclaim to be one. I do, however, understand the mechanics that occur during the pitching motion. I am a licensed Physical Therapist, and a professional in the area of human movement science. I understand what muscles are active and which ones are not, what joint structures are being stressed and which ones are not. I can give you sound reasoning for why the inverted W can be very taxing on the shoulder – but you have to be willing to listen and be open-minded!

As for the Rhomboids, sure they are active during the pitching motion, but the two Scapular muscles that are most prominent in controlling the Scapula throughout the pitching motion are almost never discussed by “pitching experts”.

As for high arm slots, it has been proven that the long head of the biceps works more diligently when the shoulder is placed in higher ranges of flexion or abduction, especially when combined with external rotation. The role of the long head of the biceps is to aid in depressing the humeral head in the glenoid and to prevent impingement. Remember, impingement can occur in the lower ranges of motions, too, especially with a rotator-cuff deficient shoulder.

by Chris on May 12, 2008 7:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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