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Hitting Analysis: Jay Bruce (with voiceover)

Jay Bruce went 3-for-3, 2 singles, 1 double, 3 RBI, 1 stolen base, and a pair of walks in his MLB debut. Welcome to the big leagues, kid. (Reds management: What took you so long?)

It is with great pleasure that we at Driveline Mechanics announce the start of hitting mechanics analysis by using video and statistical projections. Though we do not as of yet have a Hitting page up (which will be like our Pitching page), I figured loyal Reds' fans couldn't wait for me to do a summary of rotational hitting mechanics before lauding praise on their new franchise player.

Without further ado, let's get to it!

Statistical Analysis of Jay Bruce - Center Fielder

Jay Bruce, at the ripe old age of 20, posted these statistics in 50 games and 187 at-bats in the International League (AAA):

.305/.358/.567 - 11 HR, 15 BB, 48 SO, 2-for-4 SB

That is pretty damn impressive. People worried about his strikeout-to-walk ratio, though, and in 2008 he did this over 49 games and 184 at-bats:

.364/.393/.630 - 10 HR, 12 BB, 45 SO, 8-for-9 SB

So he didn't increase his walk rate. I ask you this: So what? Jay Bruce did not need to "learn" to walk in the minors, because he was simply dominating the pitchers. His strikeout rate is not all that concerning, as more astute readers of this blog will note that hitters such as his teammate Adam Dunn strike out quite a bit yet remain very valuable players. In fact, you want players with "young guy tools," such as hitting for average and stealing bases, as hitters with premature "old guy tools," such as high isolated OBPs and selective power tend to age less gracefully. Even if you subtract 60 points of batting average from Jay Bruce's 2008 line, he is almost exactly the same player as he was in 2007: Extremely productive and ready for the big show.

Baseball Prospectus pegs Jay Bruce's value (MORP) at $11,175,000 for 2008 based on a projected line of .270/.336/.513 and below-average defense in CF. That sounds about right, but I'd take the over on his batting average.

Detractors point to his less than stellar bb/k rate, but as I said before, Jay Bruce never had to learn to walk. He just kept hitting, and hitting. However, in the majors, the pitchers are quite a bit better, and they will learn to adapt to his style. They will start exploiting what small holes they can find in his swing, and his batting average will drop, as will his isolated-power rates. However, it is naive to think that Bruce can't adjust himself - after all, he blew through three levels at age 20 in the minor leagues. Bruce will then start to walk more, hit for a bit more power, and his batting average will level off as he develops a better batting eye. And even if he doesn't, he'll still be a top-flight center fielder as opposed to one of the game's best.

In short, nothing about Jay Bruce worries me from a statistical standpoint, nor should it worry you.

The Five Tools of Hitting - Jay Bruce

Position players are very rarely called "five-tool players." That means that they are above-average at the following things:


  • Hitting for average.

  • Hitting for power.

  • Speed.

  • Arm strength.

  • Fielding/range.


Jay Bruce is a five-tool player - make no mistake about it. He can hit for average, he can hit for power, he can steal a base, he has a plus arm, and he profiles to be an average center fielder in the major leagues over time. It's important to note that even if Bruce wouldn't be an average center fielder, that he may very well still be a five-tool player since he would very likely be a plus right fielder. For what it's worth, I like his chances to stick in center field.

Video Analysis / Hitting Mechanics of Jay Bruce

Now here's the good stuff. There are four main phases to the major-league swing. They are:


  • Back leg load: The hitter makes an initial negative movement back and coils his body.

  • Back leg push: The hitter pushes off the back leg and begins forward movement, creating linear momentum.

  • Front leg block: The hitter makes a strong front leg block and begins to convert linear momentum into rotational power through the kinetic link.

  • Front leg push: The hitter pushes off the front leg right before contact to add power to the swing as he uncocks the wrists.


The four phases of the swing have many other subparts to them, but these are the main components of the rotational swing. A hitter's primary source of power is the ground, which is why the phases all revolve around the lower half of the body.

Here's my voiceover for Jay Bruce's swing to help further explain the four phases of hitting and how it relates to him:

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Kyle,

I thought the reason they held Bruce in AAA was to get an extra arbitration year/ avoid super 2 status.

by snowden719 on May 28, 2008 2:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Snowden,

That’s the working theory. It looks like they waited just long enough to avoid super 2 status with Bruce, which as a Reds fan I’m happy with. Tim Sullivan wrote an article today about Chase Headley that mentioned Bruce briefly. According to Sullivan, the cut off for super 2 status has ranged from 2 yrs + 128 days to 2 yrs + 153 days. Waiting until yesterday to call up Bruce gives will give him 124 days of service time this season.

It looks like Padres fans are gonna have to wait a few more weeks for Headley because he already has 19 service days from last year.

by Brad on May 28, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for this as well Kyle. Looks promising on all fronts for Bruce. Forgot to put that in my comment.

Also a link to Sullivan’s article.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/news/2008/may/27/headleys-prolonged-apprenticeship-portland-makes-d/

by Brad on May 28, 2008 3:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Could you please explain the part about it being physically impossible for him to see the ball?

by Jackson on May 28, 2008 10:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

snowden,

Yeah, it looks like that. Thanks to Brad and Beyond the Box Score for that analysis. However, I will note that people who draw parallels to Ryan Braun’s situation should realize that the Brewers would have probably made the playoffs with Braun in the lineup all year, and that the revenue/fan support may have been worth the loss of cost-controlled years.

Jackson,

It is impossible to “see the ball hit the bat,” something that Ted Williams said he could do. Physicist Robert K. Adair disproved that theory in his studies and published it – along with many other great works – in The Physics of Baseball. You can get it here:

http://www.amazon.com/Physics-Baseball-3rd-Robert-Adair/dp/0060084367

by Kyle on May 28, 2008 10:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What you are calling lead arm extension, I used to call barring out and it was a bad thing and not a good thing. I tried to duplicate that swing Bruce just took and it gets very long on the inside pitch, which is the most important and where it needs to be the shortest. Now I realize he was going the other way on this pitch, and if that was an offspeed pitch that was a good piece of hitting, but overall, I don’t like this particular swing.

I’m trying to visualize Barry Bonds’ stroke and it doesn’t seem to me that he had lead arm extension. Not to that degree anyways.

by rwperu34 on May 28, 2008 11:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Arm barring occurs when you have too much of an arm swing and don’t rotate around the body. Gaining lead arm extension while maintaining the box is what increases the stretch reflex / stretch shortening cycle in the kinetic link phase of the swing.

Barry Bonds gains a ton of lead arm extension. Take a look as he loads:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa173/xvue84/hitting%20clips/bondshr1slow.gif

by Kyle on May 29, 2008 12:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That Bonds swing was kind of blurry, but he looked to have a little bend in his arm and also kept his hands much closer to the body. Mauer looked completely different than Bruce on lead arm extension. Both of those looked to be inside pitches.

Looking at Bruce, his arm angle is like 175°. Look how far Bruce’s hands are from his body when he brings them into the equation? Both Bonds, as much as I can see, and espeically Mauer are taking their hands directly to the ball. With this Bruce swing, it looks more like a loop. Again, I’m trying to visualize Bruce getting around on an inside fastball with his lead arm at 175°.

by rwperu34 on May 29, 2008 12:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

“With this Bruce swing, it looks more like a loop.”

That’s probably because it was an outside pitch. Bruce will look significantly different and the knob of the bat will be much farther out on an inside pitch. There is an amount of disconnection (hands away from the body) required to reach outside pitches, as you noted.

by Kyle on May 29, 2008 12:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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