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Pitcher Analysis: Matt Garza (Part Two)

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In Part One of the Matt Garza analysis, we noted that he threw five pitches while mainly relying on his fastball/slider combination to put hitters away. In Part Two, we'll analyze the source of his radial nerve irritation, and what it means for his long-term health.

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What the Hell is the Radial Nerve?

Matt Garza landed on the 15-day disabled list in early April due to "radial nerve irritation." As Chris Neault from Disabled List Informer said:

The radial nerve supplies sensory and motor information to the back of the hand, forearm, and triceps. Most commonly, the radial nerve becomes irritated as it passes through the forearm or lateral elbow, most notably in the area of the supinator muscle. This muscle turns the palm upwards, such as when a power curve is thrown. The nerve may also get irritated as it passes by the bony structures on the outside of the elbow.

There are two bones in your forearm: The Ulna and the Radius. When pitchers experience "hyperextension" of the elbow joint, or release pitches with a supinated grip, they slam the ulnar olecranon processes into their humeral olecranon fossa (soft tissue), causing inflammation of the hyaline cartilage. In turn, this causes the ulna bone to irreversibly lengthen, which results in loss of flexion about the elbow.

Sound like a lot to digest? It is! But, here's a fun tip - if you know any competitive pitchers, preferably one who threw 120+ innings in a year and had a supinated breaking ball, ask him to touch the palm of his throwing arm to the throwing arm shoulder. Many people will be unable to do this - try it yourself. If you aren't a pitcher (or haven't had a freak accident causing loss of flexion about the elbow), you should have no problem laying your hand (or at least your fingertips) on your shoulder.

You've probably heard of Ulnar Collateral Ligament replacement surgery, better known as Tommy John surgery. However, you've probably never heard of radial nerve irritation. It is far less common than ulnar nerve irritation, but it does happen to baseball pitchers, and it is often misdiagnosed. As Chris Neault said above, the radial nerve is often irritated as it passes through the forearm or the lateral elbow in the area of the supinator muscle. The supinator muscle does exactly what it sounds like - it turns the palm upwards (or thumbs up).

Take a good look at the picture of Matt Garza that I used for the introduction of this post. Now compare it to Greg Maddux below:

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Here's Garza again for comparison:

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Note the position of the hand, most notably the flexion of the wrist. Greg Maddux's palm is turned down, while Garza's is towards first base. Garza is experiencing early pronation, which is not good. This still reinforces my believe that Matt Garza throws a supinated slider (and probably curve ball), as pronating early is the best way to achieve maximum supination through release. Bad news, Rays fans - that "nasty curve" you see on TV? It's destroying his elbow.

When Matt Garza supinates hard through release, he is taxing the relatively small supinator muscle in addition to slamming his olecrenanon process into its fossa, and irritating his radial nerve.

A supinated release is not efficient. For proof, we only need to look at how a boxer throws a straight punch:

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A boxer throws a straight jab palm down and uses his pronator teres to add force to the punch. Punches are not thrown palm up!

Over the weekend Part Three will be up, finally doing a video-based analysis of Matt Garza's pitching mechanics.

 

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Excellent stuff.

I was trying to explain this to the people over at Let’s Go Tribe with out much success. You are truly a genius. When my kids start to throw a baseball I will want them to work with some one who understand the process like you do.

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by E5 on Aug 22, 2008 11:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Genius?

I’m no genius, but thank you. Just trying to spread the word.

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by Kyle Boddy on Aug 23, 2008 3:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Destroying his elbow?

Isn’t that a little bit much? Look at the way James Shields palm looks on his pitches and he’s a horse for the Rays. Shields has had a clean bill of health since joining the Majors.

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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 22, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't mean he will always be healthy

Current health is not an indicator of future health in fact might be a sign that an injury is very likely in the near future. This is science not some guess. The guess would be how long he will hold up or how much pain he can pitch with.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Aug 22, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But....

You can use that statement for every pitcher.

Look at some images of Tom Glavine or Jamie Moyer

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Their palms are not facing down and they pitched 20+ years of baseball with no major injuries. Sure Glavine is hurt this year, but you can’t say this is the reason. I’m just a fan of baseball and do not have a background with injuries so I do not have an expert opinion. I’m just saying looking at two pictures and saying Garza is “destroying his elbow” is a bit much. We have no public medical records on Garza and have no idea what his elbow looks like.

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by Tommy Rancel on Aug 22, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moyer.

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Moyer’s arm at footstrike is up and vertical, and he is showing the ball to first base, not the outfield. In the image of Garza at the top of this article, you can plainly see he is showing it to 2b/CF, which is proof that his early pronation is causing a timing flaw and poor arm positioning.

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by Kyle Boddy on Aug 23, 2008 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All pitchers are built differently.

I think it’s unfair to say Garza is tearing up his elbow. I think it’s fair to say Garza has a history of having some radial nerve injuries and this might be the cause, and it may or may not lead to more injuries.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 22, 2008 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it isn't a might be

It is a given fact. All pitchers are tearing up their elbows but poor mechanics will increase the risk of permanent damage and loss of flexion. Just like when you work out you tear your muscles and strain your ligament you do so while pitching. With proper mechanics you can reduce the wear and tear or unnatural movements on those ligaments or tendons. Because throwing overhand is unnatural any way the bones are also effected due to the velocities and rebound effects of throwing. This violent action causes a calcification of the bones and would later lead to bone chips as the calcified bones begin to age and become more brittle. (ever hear of bone chips in the shoulder, elbow) Basically the early pronation lengthens the ligaments and tendons just before the major jerk or velocities are achieved thus putting them at a increased chance of inflammation at best and at worst a complete snap or tear.

Try putting a few rubber bands together and tie some sticks to them then add in complicated movements to them in an effort to propel an object. I bet you will find that under certain action the bands would be more likely to snap or become impinged thus reducing the velocities or completely disabling the ability to propel that object. That is basically what is happing in the human arm. When and how bad the damage is depends on a variety of factors but the fact is all pitchers are being damaged. The best you can do is find the proper mechanics, training methods and nutrition to avoid major damage that would reduce or completely destroys arms.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Aug 22, 2008 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Differences in Anatomy.

While it is true that all pitchers are built differently, there are some mechanical flaws that fit the description of what is happening to Garza’s elbow and radial nerve problems.

My work is not meant to be an absolute, tell-all description of what will happen with 100% certainty. But I’m willing to bet that I’m more right than most.

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by Kyle Boddy on Aug 23, 2008 3:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very interesting blog

This is the first time I’ve heard about this site (new or old). VERY cool.

by CJElven on Aug 22, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

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by Kyle Boddy on Aug 23, 2008 3:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle

Do your comments re: supination/pronation mean that throwing screwballs is healthier than standard breaking balls?

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by battlekow on Aug 23, 2008 10:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Screwballs.

Yes, that’s typically what it means. However, there are ways to throw pronated sliders/curveballs. I will upload an image of Roger Clemens throwing his pronated slider to the main page soon.

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by Kyle Boddy on Aug 23, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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