Division-By-Division 2009 Projected Starting Pitching Rankings By WAR: AL East
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Finally! We've reached the end of the series of six posts going through the MLB division by division to see who has the best projected 2009 starting pitching by Wins Above Replacement (WAR). We're finishing up today with a division that definitely doesn't get enough play on ESPN: the American League East. Are they any good when it comes to starting pitching? Read on to find out...
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How Did I Come Up With These Numbers?
Some details on the methods used (if you don't care, you can jump straight to the main body)
- FIP is used as the primary pitching stat.
- The projected 2009 for each pitcher is generated by averagfing the projections of the three best publicly available projection systems: CHONE, ZiPS, and PECOTA. The projected FIP for CHONE and ZiPS are from the player pages at FanGraphs. I generated the PECOTA FIP myself from the big spreadsheet.
- Playing time/depth chart projections are based on Baseball Prospectus's depth charts (not the PECOTA weighted mean) in order to account for spot starters as well. These change every week; the playing times used are those that were up when I was writing the present post.
- No team only starts 5 players all year long. However, I've also included a "top 5" figure for each team, based on the top 5 projected starter WARs for each team (not the top five projected IPs).
- Value is based on a Win% generated using PythagenPat in relation to a average FIP-ERA of 4.40 and an RA of 4.76.
- Run values are generated by are scaling FIP to RA rather than ERA for better accuracy and to properly value pitchers with respect to hitters.
- An appropriate replacement level win percentage for starting pitchers is used, adjusted for relative league difficulty: .390 is replacement level for starters in the NL, and .370 for the AL.
- Adjustments for ballparks use the five-year regressed park factors used at FanGraphs.
- Adjustments are made for each pitcher's influence on his run environment through a dynamic run-to-win conversion for each individual pitcher.
- Starting with the AL Central post, aggregate team starter win % is listed. Important Note: that this is not directly convertible to team WAR, as it is a simple weighted average based on individual win% and IP. There will be discrepancies between team win% and team WAR, which is based on individual win % because this rough calculation occurs before individual impcat on run environment is taken into account for run-to-win conversion. WAR is the focus here. This feature is just for fun and a rough little guide to quality in relation to average. WAR is still the main focus of this series.
- Neither the rates nor playing time projections are "mine." I have simply the projections, averaged them, and combined them with Baseball Prospectus's playing time predictions. You can find the complete projected lines for each pitcher at the home sites for the systems (and FanGraphs, for CHONE and ZiPS). In other words, don't blame me if you lose money betting with this stuff...
Team-By-Team
| Player | IP | FIP | Win% | RAR | WAR |
| Jeremy Guthrie | 170 | 4.61 | .483 | 19.2 | 1.9 |
| Koji Uehara | 135 | 4.50 | .494 | 16.7 | 1.6 |
| Alfredo Simon | 100 | 6.20 | .489 | -1.3 | -0.1 |
| Mark Hendrickson | 100 | 4.55 | .489 | 11.9 | 1.2 |
| Matt Albers | 110 | 4.51 | .493 | 13.5 | 1.3 |
| Rich Hill | 100 | 4.82 | .461 | 9.1 | 0.9 |
| Adam Eaton | 100 | 5.36 | .411 | 4.1 | 0.4 |
| Hayden Penn | 55 | 5.67 | .386 | 0.9 | 0.1 |
| Brian Bass | 75 | 4.83 | .460 | 6.8 | 0.7 |
| Christopher Tillman | 45 | 5.39 | .409 | 1.8 | 0.2 |
| Total | .458 | 7.9 | |||
| Top 5 | 6.9 |
Comment: The second-worst projected WAR of any team in the series (the Padres are the worst), and the worst in the AL. As you'll see, their starters don't really match up in the division too well. No one projects as league average, although Guthrie, the Alberts, and Hendrickson (Lurch!) and perhaps the mysterious Uehara could do okay in the middle of many teams rotations. Still, it's not like they're paying out a bunch of money for these guys, and a lot of them were freely acquired. There's good young talent among the position players, and I constantly read people raving about their minor league pitching talents. The front office seems to be smart, so the team will be good overall sooner rather than later, but they're going to need to score a lot of runs this season...
| Player | IP | FIP | Win% | RAR | WAR |
| Roy Halladay | 210 | 3.35 | .631 | 54.9 | 5.8 |
| Jesse Litsch | 170 | 4.3 | .516 | 24.8 | 2.5 |
| David Purcey | 130 | 4.66 | .478 | 14.0 | 1.4 |
| Casey Janssen | 100 | 3.88 | .564 | 19.4 | 2.0 |
| Scott Richmond | 75 | 5.13 | .432 | 4.7 | 0.4 |
| Brett Cecil | 70 | 4.16 | .532 | 11.3 | 1.1 |
| Dustin McGowan | 50 | 4.01 | .549 | 9.0 | 0.9 |
| Matt Clement | 50 | 5.13 | .432 | 3.1 | 0.3 |
| Bryan Bullington | 60 | 5.23 | .423 | 3.2 | 0.3 |
| Brad Mills | 50 | 5.50 | .400 | 1.5 | 0.1 |
| Total | .521 | 14.8 | |||
| Top 5 | 12.7 |
Comment: Yes, it's fun to mock J. P. Ricciardi, particularly after the Adam Dunn thing, or the Vernon Wells contract, or his general thin-skinned reaction to criticism. But the truth is that although I don't care if Adam Dunn "likes baseball" or not, that Moneyball was written a long time ago, and Adam Dunn is actually an above-average player at best, since he can't catch the ball (as anyone watching the U.S.A.-Japan WBC game can attest) to save his life. I'm beginning to agree more and more with Sky Kalkman in seeing Ricciardi as one of the more underrated GMs in the game. Most defensive systems had the Jays as one of the best defensive teams in the league last season, and their pitching was monstrous.. but we aren't here to talk about J. P. or defense, but starting pitching. And the truth is... A. J. Burnett is gone. Shaun Marcum was great last year, but is recovering frrom Tommy John now. Dustin McGowan was good, and has a nice projection here, but he's hurt (again)... With Tampa Bay making it a "Big Three" in the division, the Jays probably need to hit the reset button. Heck, if Jake Peavy can be all the rage, what would Roy Halladay (who's worth about twice what he's being paid the next two seasons) fetch? He's one of my favorite players not on my favorite team, and it would hurt, but if they could trade him for, say, half of the Rangers top prospects (I don't know, I'm just speculating) or something, maybe it's time. I don't know about Casey Janssen's numbers, as he was a reliever previously. Lot's of young guys and cheap pickups. So there's long-term possbility here. It's an above-average group, and before mocking J. P., keep in mind that while this group doesn't look good against the division, the "Top Five" by themselves project with more WAR than any single team in total in the AL Central...
| Player | IP | FIP | Win% | RAR | WAR |
| Josh Beckett | 190 | 3.58 | .611 | 45.8 | 4.8 |
| Daisuke Matsuzaka | 170 | 4.03 | .556 | 31.7 | 3.2 |
| Tim Wakefield | 130 | 4.92 | .461 | 11.9 | 1.1 |
| Jon Lester | 170 | 4.19 | .537 | 28.5 | 2.9 |
| Brad Penny | 130 | 4.37 | .518 | 19.2 | 1.9 |
| Clay Buchholz | 75 | 4.08 | .550 | 13.5 | 1.4 |
| John Smoltz | 85 | 3.54 | .615 | 20.9 | 2.2 |
| Michael Bowden | 25 | 4.52 | .502 | 3.3 | 0.3 |
| Total | .549 | 17.7 | |||
| Top 5 | 14.9 |
Comment: Hey, it's the lovable underdogs! Not much to say here -- it's a great group of starters. I'm sure people doubt Buchholz's numbers, but I'm just passing along an average of projection systems. You may find Josh Beckett obnoxious, but he's still a monster pitcher, and chances are that his luck will even out this season. Matzusaka is good, but 4.03 FIP hardly screams "ace." Overrated. It will be interesting to see what Smoltz and Penny give them. Smart upside signings. Love the the Sox or hate them, you have to hand it to Epstein, et. al.
| Player | IP | FIP | Win% | RAR | WAR |
| CC Sabathia | 220 | 3.27 | .638 | 59.1 | 6.3 |
| A.J. Burnett | 200 | 3.74 | .577 | 41.5 | 4.3 |
| Andy Pettitte | 180 | 3.98 | .548 | 32.1 | 3.2 |
| Chien-Ming Wang | 140 | 3.94 | .553 | 25.6 | 2.6 |
| Joba Chamberlain | 140 | 3.30 | .634 | 36.9 | 3.9 |
| Philip Hughes | 70 | 4.00 | .545 | 12.3 | 1.2 |
| Ian Kennedy | 65 | 4.42 | .497 | 8.3 | 0.8 |
| Total | .582 | 22.3 | |||
| Top 5 | 20.2 |
Comment: Speaking of love/hate... Yikes. I'm sure you're looking at this with some skepticism, but when only one of a team's top 7 starting pitchers projects as below average, and he's slated to get 65 innings, I think they're probably going to OK. I wonder if they're willing to give up Hughes up for cheap, since he looks like a guy who could easily be the #2 on a lot of teams. The Pettitte signing again looks like another smart bargain, although he'll need the shaky Yankees defense to help him out more than they did last season (4.54 ERA versus 3.71 FIP). I'm not sure about A.J. Burnett getting 200 IPs, but I've stuck with Clay Davenport this far, so I can't change anything about it now. I just don't know if Chamberlain should be a starter or reliever. He's only projected for 3.9 WAR this season. I wonder how many relievers were that valuable in 2008?
| Player | IP | FIP | Win% | RAR | WAR |
| Scott Kazmir | 170 | 3.80 | .560 | 32.4 | 3.3 |
| James Shields | 200 | 3.80 | .560 | 38.1 | 3.9 |
| Matt Garza | 165 | 4.19 | .514 | 23.8 | 2.4 |
| Andre Sonnanstine | 180 | 4.20 | .512 | 25.6 | 2.5 |
| David Price | 135 | 4.40 | .491 | 16.3 | 1.6 |
| Jeff Niemann | 55 | 4.91 | .438 | 3.7 | 0.4 |
| James Houser Jr. | 25 | 5.98 | .349 | -0.5 | 0.0 |
| Wade Davis | 34 | 5.11 | .419 | 1.7 | 0.2 |
| Total | .516 | 14.1 | |||
| Top 5 | 13.7 |
Comment: The (AL) champ always enters last. Unless it's Hulk Hogan versus Randy Savage at Wrestlemania V, as Jesse Ventura angrily pointed out at the time. As if their AL pennant wasn't enough, having only a few guys on this list in itself is a sign of the Rays "arrival." If you look back, over these posts, the teams with more guys listed as getting SP time having lower WARs, in general,, probably because they're so unstable that it's hard to say who will start. The Rays may not be as "high up there" as you might thing, but 14.1 WAR and a .516 win% say this is another rotaiton that would be the best or second-best in a number of other divisions No clear "ace" here, but 3-4 guys who look like #2 pitchers. It's not only balanced, but all these guys are young and locked up for a while. Another thing about young guys is that they are more likely to make dramatic leaps in performance from year-to-year....
| Rank | Team | Total SP WAR | Top 5 WAR | Win% |
| 1 | Yankees | 22.3 | 20.2 | .582 |
| 2 | Red Sox | 17.7 | 14.9 | .549 |
| 3 | Blue Jays | 14.8 | 12.7 | .521 |
| 4 | Rays | 14.1 | 13.7 | .516 |
| 5 | Orioles | 7.9 | 6.9 | .458 |
| Total | 76.8 | 68.4 |
Final Thoughts: It's probably not very surprising that the best division in baseball has the strongest starting pitching. The Orioles are an exception here, and they are dreadful (when it comes to SP for the 2009 season), which only serves to underscore who good the other teams are. The NL West is the closest, but after the Diamondbacks' and Giants' great rotations, there's a real drop-off. The Yankees' advantage is concentrated on the top to a certain extent, and perhaps Hughes and Kennedy are overrated by the projections, but when your fill-in guys could be #3 on a number of teams, you're doing OK. The Sox have questions, but a lot of upside, too. The Jays and Rays are interchangable, with the Jays having Halladay, who is as good as anyone is baseball, and the Rays having a very balanced group. To repeat -- the "Top Five" of the top four teams in this division all have a higher projected WAR than any team in the AL Central. That's not meant as a slam on the Central. These are five teams that are well-run in general (or getting there), even those with bad offense (the Blue Jays) or bad pitching (Orioles). The media may spend too much time on the division (or, more precisely, the Yankees and Red Sox), but they're the class of baseball for a reason.
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Curiously
Pettitte’s 2008 tRA is actually right in line with his ERA.
As much as I love Roy Halladay (and think he should’ve won the Cy last year), there is just no way in hell I would trade that many prospects for two years of his pitching.
by jwiscarson on Mar 31, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I know
it was just hyperbole to make the point that the Jays should be fielding offers
As for Pettitte, keep in mind that tRA is on an RA scale, so a 4.5 is pretty good… Stat Corner has him at 3.1 WAR — that’s a guy who can pitch #2 for most teams.
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by devil_fingers on Mar 31, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah.
I should’ve rephrased — his tRA still shows him as an excellent contributor — I just found it strange that the numbers were so different (although I really shouldn’t be considering the differences between tRA and FIP).
by jwiscarson on Mar 31, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I figured you were kidding (at least because the Rangers aren’t that close to actually contending this season and potentially next), but it wouldn’t shock me to see some other team put forth an offer of that level for Halladay.
If we’re in 2010, the Rangers still have that many top-tier prospects, and we need one more pitcher, I would absolutely go for that deal. Both FanGraphs and StatCorner have him around a seven WAR. He was second in overall pitching WAR last year to Sabathia. Just filthy.
by jwiscarson on Mar 31, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're in 2010
then the Jays are back in Win Now mode and aren’t dealing Halladay anywhere. The Jays would need to get back the next A-Rod or Pujols in any deal for Halladay, and I don’t think most teams who have a guy like that are going to trade him.
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by Torgen on Apr 2, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh sorry having technical difficulties
I’d be shocked to see Burnett get to 200 IPs. After all the innings he pitched last year, and given his history of injuries, I’m surprised that Pecota has him getting to 200 innings.
Also what is with Toronto and their inability to keep pitchers healthy.
by Gina on Mar 31, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, Burnett=Burnett
that’s part of the problem. McGowan has had injury problems since he was in the minors, if I remember correctly.
Marcum, who knows? It’s just pitchers. With him he had been a reliever for a while, so maybe the increased IP was a problem.
Without knowing much more, I’d just guess terrible luck.
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by devil_fingers on Mar 31, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreso...
Thru the years AJ has only pitched 200+ innings or more 3 times. The 1st two times Burnett pitched 200+ innings he was on the disabled list the next. Last season Burnett threw a career high 221 innings. What will the Yanks be in store for with the $80M, career 8 games over .500 pitcher who is injury prone?
by ConnorManning on Apr 3, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of that deal
it’ s not great, but it’s not horrible, either. Burnett is very good when he’s been on, which hasn’t been 200 IP very often.
Yes, he seems to get hurt a lot, and he’s in his 30s. Over the last 4 seasons though, he’s averaged about 182 innings a season — not terrible. WAR tells the best story, as it accounts both for level of performance relative to average/replacement level as well as playing time, which is sort of the whole point. something around “2” is a league average player:
Without crunching the numbers myself, here his WAR numbers from FanGraphs the past four season:
2005: 5.1
2006: 3.2
2007: 2.8
2008: 5.7
If you look in the “salary” column, you’ll see that he more than earned his money with the Jays 2006-2008), despite his “down” year in 2007.
Like I said, I’m not sure the deal is great going forward. And any long-term deal for any player (especially a pitcher in his 30s) can turn into an albatross. But Burnett’s not quite a big risk as we (incluiding myself here) might think at first.
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by devil_fingers on Apr 3, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m beggining to think that Toronto wont get enough value for Roy Halladay in which case its better to keep him.
I think hes the best pitcher(You could argue Santana as being better or equal)in baseball and is a true workhorse signed for the next 2 years at well below his actual worth.
Unless they get a few all-star prospects including pitchers then I wouldnt even entertain any offers.
Plus he gives Toronto a star who the fans can identify with and seems willing to re-sign given the fact his only injury was a freak leg-break he figures to continue to be a workhorse for the rest of his career.
by Ohpityme on Apr 18, 2009 7:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, completely.
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