Luke Hochevar vs. TucsonRoyal
For those awaiting the exciting conclusion to "Pennants Added and the Hall of Fame", I will have it ready in a couple of days. Today I wanted to take a look at a very efficient gem turned in by a certain AL starting pitcher earlier this week.
A while ago, Jeff (TucsonRoyal) published an excellent post about whether or not Luke Hochevar of the Royals would be better off in the pen vs. being a starting. He looked at extensive PITCHfx data and inning by innings splits, and eventually concluded:
Luke was decent in the minors as a starter, but I believe that he can not cut it as a major league starter. The Royals will probably try to use Luke as a starter for a little longer, but his place is in the pen setting up Joakim Soria unless he finds a way to have some stamina to pitch into and past the 3rd inning.
Well, Luke apparently didn't care for all of those fancy stats and research, and decided to throw an 80 pitch complete game, only allowing 1 ER. He allowed 3 hits (including a homer) and 1 walk, while striking out 3; so it wasn't exactly the most dominant start, but it was still great nonetheless. And the way he did it was particularly surprising. Jeff had shown that Hochevar tended to decline after the first couple of innings; however, in his last start, "all" of his 4 baserunners came before the 5th inning. Then he was lights out the rest of the way.
So was this start just luck, or has Luke actually taken a step forward to being a better pitcher?
First lets start off with pitch selection. In his post, Jeff showed that Hochevar's fastball velocity and usage had declined in the later innings of the game. So what happened last start?Obviously we are dealing with an extremely small sample size, but the results are still revealing. He started off throwing his fastball most of the time; however, especially in the middle innings, he integrated his offspeed pitches more. That follows what his previously established pattern that Jeff illustrated. In his post, Jeff noted that the reason Hochevar threw fewer fastballs as the game progress was likely due to it's declining velocity in the later innings. Lets see if that was the case in his last start:
Unlike his previous starts in which his fastball velocity declined in the later innings of the game, he maintained steady velocity throughout the game. In fact, he actually increased his velocity as the game progressed.
So it appears that Hochevar had his stuff working for him that day. His fastball stayed fast, and he integrated his curveball and slider nicely. Overall, he seems to have had made the improvement, at least in his last start, that Jeff thought was necessary.
However, while he may have improved upon his endurance, his command still appeared shoddy:
While he was clearly throwing a ton of strikes, his pitch location didn't look very good at all. He threw way to many fastballs down the middle, in my opinion, and his curve and slider appeared to have hung up in the zone. Overall, he allowed 23 balls in play, which is a very high number for such a dominant start, yet only 3 hits. His FIP for that game was 4.31, which is good and a massive improvement over what he had previously offered, but not nearly as dominant as a quick glance at his game line leads you to think.
He improved in terms of endurance, throwing just as hard in the 9th inning as in the 1st inning; however, he needs to miss more bats if he wants to continue with good results like this. He threw way too many hittable pitches, and against a better offense than the Reds, he might not have had so much success.
Still, the fact that he was able to maintain his stuff into the late innings and throw strikes can only be encouraging to Royals fans. A 4.31 FIP isn't bad at all, and if he can build on his last start he should be able to be a solid contributer as a major league starter.
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I think you're missing something here
Jeff said that Luke’s fastball velocity and usage declines in the late innings.
Could it be that the velocity declines after a certain number of pitches, and we haven’t seen it because, well, he only threw 80 pitches?
As you said, it was a whole lot of fastballs down the middle that, on another day, would have been hit hard.
A 4.31 FIP is good for a starter, but if the best start of his career so far comes with a 4.31 FIP, it’s nothing special.
by paqs on Jun 15, 2009 6:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this answer is fairly subjective....
but I would like to cite Joe Posnanski twitter post after said game:
“Luke Hochevar: 80 pitches. Brilliant Pitching. Serious Cincinnati hacking.”
Do I get demerits for using twitter?
He touches on what you said in the post, where he has pitch better against teams that have a better offense than the Reds. Although, and I could be mistaken, the Reds have a decent offense this year, kind of hurt right now without Votto.
I would vote to do a reverse Joba. Put him in the pen to work on his command, because the graph above kind of looks like “Space: The Final Frontier.”
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
by mrbendy on Jun 15, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This might be true, but it wasn't this weekend.
Although, and I could be mistaken, the Reds have a decent offense this year, kind of hurt right now without Votto.
The Royals pitchers really made their offense look putrid. Swinging at junk when ahead in the count, little punch, and just generally awful approaches. I’m not saying their offense isn’t decent, just that they were awful this weekend.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Jun 15, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The AL must be filled with all the good players
Because the Royals made the Reds look really bad. I’ve never seen a team hack like that against the Royals.
Also, 80 pitches isn’t going to be a normal start. It’s probably pitches 81-100+ that are most concerning with Hochevar.
by AxDxMx on Jun 15, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Give him another start where he has to work and decide from there. Most started are going to be fine with 80 pitches, after that is when the work really begins, in my humble opinion.
80 pitch complete game is something I haven’t seen since the Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz era in Atlanta. Very unusual.
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
by mrbendy on Jun 15, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good suggestions
I’ll make sure to look at his next couple of starts to see if anything comes from them.
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 15, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, viva, you beat me to it, I was going to go back and look
I think this start was pretty unique, 80 pitches is pretty extreme. I need to look at the start before this 80 pitch start and see what happens
Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.
by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Jun 15, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I checked the story drafts to see if you were writing anything
Sorry if I took your post idea
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 15, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because it was an idea, doesn't mean I was going to write anything
i found that Harry (on THT) and I both looked at Lidge and got the same results.
Write away.
Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.
by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Jun 15, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, this result seems like a fluke
by combining a good day from Hoch with a bad day from the Reds.
I imagine a pitcher’s arm doesn’t get too tired when he gets to rest every 10 pitches or so.
Of course there’s still hope that Hoch can keep developing his stuff and continue to be at least a quality 3rd/4th/5th starter, but this one amazing start doesn’t have me convinced.
by benfunke on Jun 15, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’ll make sure to check out his next start to see if he reverts back to old habits.
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 15, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, so will the Royals' fans
although, we may have to wait for his next start against an AL team.
by benfunke on Jun 15, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one's easy.
An average starter has about the same value as an elite closer. Starter every time.
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by Jack Moore on Jun 15, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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